![]() ![]() Most people seem to agree on this but for the uninitiated: camerupt is really just not very good. it's not lighting the world on fire but i really don't see how you can put a mon with so many different things going for it in the same tier as random gimmick mons like it is on so many of the lists in this thread. i haven't used it yet, but it can also run sd to decent effect with tera finally letting sd sets beat steels. sure it can be kind of deadweight in some matchups where they have a vigoroth or something, but fast sleep + u-turn is just really good, and it has a good set of other moves including by far the best recovery move in the game to make up for its inability to run boots, memento which is always good in setup sweeper heavy metas like these, as well as the ability to revenge a good number of weakened offensive mons thanks to its amazing speed and ability to hit through subs. So i totally get having jumpluff in b or something like that, but some of these lists have it in the same rank as obviously unviable stuff and i really don't get it. I don't think much of my list is too far out of the ordinary but i'll explain some of the more unconventional placements: Happy posting everyone and I can't wait to see what you all come up with! Mainly just wanted to get this up to give an example for a first post. Not the most comprehensive list and I'd love to give more of a fleshed out analysis if I could but I definitely need to play more to do so. The B ranks are just a massive toss up it's really hard to tell with a lot of these Pokemon if they're actually good or not, and some of these placements are based off of my experiences with these Pokemon in previous generations. ![]() A and A- are kind of a toss up because I feel like I need more experience with a lot of these to properly placement but I'm fairly comfortable with the placing for now. Again, you know exactly what you're getting from them and they'll consistently perform well. A+ is a little bare but I do think Mag, Crab and Skunk really separate themselves from the Pokemon below them. In S rank I have Perr and Gogoat as I think they're the most splashable Pokemon in the tier and just really consistent regardless of what team they end up on. Here's my list to kick things off! I haven't played a crazy amount of the tier so the ranks from B+ down are probably pretty (very) dicey! I added in a broken rank for the Pokemon that I think are currently unhealthy in the tier, namely Oricorio-Pa'u, Haunter and Houndoom. You can talk about why you don't agree with it, but don't go too far. You can comment on your own rankings and other users too, but let's keep it cordial if someone ranked highly a Pokémon you think has no place in the tier, that just means you guys have different views on the meta.Feel free to add more ranks to your list as you need.Here's the current list, if you see a pokemon that's not longer in the tier just don't rank it. Please make some comments on your list, especially if you have some controversial placements.With this thread, Everyone can share their own personal viability rankings and provide some insight into their thought processes on where you think the Pokemon should fall. In teambuilding, each person has an individual view on how certain Pokemon blend into the meta and carve niches for themselves in a dynamically shifting metagame. In lower tiers, new meta trends can shape how the tier is played and how Pokemon are viewed as new, viable threats, or as strictly flavor-of-the-month Pokemon. Due to subjectivity with tiering, people will have differing opinions on where Pokemon land on the viability rankings.
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